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Old 27th October 2006, 10:09 AM
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Hotels - It pays to shop around

Billy Joel is in town in two weeks, and I was looking for a room at the venue (Burswood Resort/Casino). Yeah I know, I was dreaming.

Anyway, I got the following prices per night -

Burswood Resort Direct via Phone- $900
Priority Club/ICHotels Website - $400
Wotif - $400.
ReadyRooms Website (Qantas) - $355.
Qantas Holidays via Telephone - $246.

I was completely stunned that Qantas Holidays ended up cheaper than all of the "last minute" websites, and the hotel direct. The only reason I called them is because I had a query about ReadyRooms bookings and the contact number is Qantas Holidays!

So, It pays to shop around and don't just try the supposed "best value" discount places when you're after a hotel - even in your home state.

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Old 27th October 2006, 11:14 AM
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I was completely stunned that Qantas Holidays ended up cheaper than all of the "last minute" websites, and the hotel direct.
That is a pleasant surprise and totally unexpected.

I would never consider them as an option as I am single and normally travel alone. Unfortunately Qantas Holidays hotel room rates are mostly twin share and price per person.
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Old 27th October 2006, 11:30 AM
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I would never consider them as an option as I am single and normally travel alone. Unfortunately Qantas Holidays hotel room rates are mostly twin share and price per person.
Give it a go anyway - I was told $246, and it wasn't until most of the way through the booking that she asked if there was anyone else staying. There was so the receipt has been printed out as $123 per person. :|

I really REALLY hate "per person" hotel rates, even when travelling as a couple.

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Old 27th October 2006, 12:06 PM
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Give it a go anyway....
I haven't in the past, but after your post they have been added to the list of places to check for accommodation rates.

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I really REALLY hate "per person" hotel rates, even when travelling as a couple.
I agree! I never quite understood this one. Maximising profits? They are alienating the majority of single travellers.
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Old 27th October 2006, 12:21 PM
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I agree! I never quite understood this one. Maximising profits? They are alienating the majority of single travellers.
I think they just do it to create headline rates bundled with airfares which are per person.

I tried to come up with other reasons, but I can't... it's a room, and i'm NOT sharing it with someone I don't know!
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Old 27th October 2006, 12:37 PM
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I tried to come up with other reasons, but I can't... it's a room, and i'm NOT sharing it with someone I don't know!
It is the same with escorted tours around the world. Pick a tour and then add on 30%+ if you want a single room.
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Old 27th October 2006, 01:17 PM
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It is the same with escorted tours around the world. Pick a tour and then add on 30%+ if you want a single room.
In these cases it makes perfect sense to price this way

They price the holiday on a per person basis and then apply a discount if more than the number of people it is based on book the same room or surcharge if there is less than the number

They are quoting a complete price for the package and not selling individual items individually

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Old 27th October 2006, 01:32 PM
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They price the holiday on a per person basis and then apply a discount if more than the number of people it is based on book the same room or surcharge if there is less than the number
Dave I wasn't complaining just commenting.

I would actually believe your story if the price of 3 people sharing a room was better than the $5/day reduction they offer on the price for 2 people sharing a room, whilst someone wanting a single room is charged 30%+ supplement on the tour price!

I have been on these types of tours in the past and have found that people paying the single supplement get the worst rooms. Go figure....
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I would actually believe your story if the price of 3 people sharing a room was better than the $5/day reduction they offer on the price for 2 people sharing a room, whilst someone wanting a single room is charged 30%+ supplement on the tour price!

I have been on these types of tours in the past and have found that people paying the single supplement get the worst rooms. Go figure....
To understand the price differences we need to undertand the way it is constructed.

Say the room costs $100. Also included in the tour costs is breakfast and sometimes dinner. Say Breakfast costs $20.

For the base price as twin-share, the actual cost to the tour company is then $140 for the room and two breakfasts. So that is then charged to you as $70 per person.

Now if you want a single-occupancy, it is then $100 for the room plus $20 breakfast, making it $120 for a single person. That is an increase of $50 or 71% higher than the twin0share rate.

Now for three people sharing, the hotel usually adds their own surcharge for the extra bed, linnen, towels etc. Lets assume that is an extra $10 on the room rate. So the total cost for 3 people is now $100 + $10 + 3 x $20 = $170. Share this between 3 people and its $56.67 each or just 19% less.

Now if dinner is also included, at say $25 per person, the difference between twin and single is then even bigger than the difference between twin and triple occupancy. The costs for this example would be $145, $95 and $75 for the 1, 2 and 3 people sharing.
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Old 27th October 2006, 03:00 PM
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Say the room costs $100. Also included in the tour costs is breakfast and sometimes dinner. Say Breakfast costs $20.

For the base price as twin-share, the actual cost to the tour company is then $140 for the room and two breakfasts. So that is then charged to you as $70 per person.

Now if you want a single-occupancy, it is then $100 for the room plus $20 breakfast, making it $120 for a single person. That is an increase of $50 or 71% higher than the twin0share rate.
NM I understand your point but that is not how it works in practice. Why? Because I have done the tours before and I have seen the difference between the single room and the double rooms. I would understand if the quality of the rooms was the same but they are not the same rooms yet the single person gets charged a supplement. I remember one room in Munich when I put my suitcase down and there was hardly any room to turn around.

When I said earlier that there is a 30%+ single supplement on tour price it is actually something like $930 for 15 nights. More than $60/night extra for the room and yes including a useles continental breakfast (which to me is worth $1) and no dinner. Now I know for a fact that hotels do not rent rooms on a per person basis, except for a small fee providing a useless cot for a 3rd adult, so who is making the money here? Tour operators love single people more than anyone else.

Enough ranting from me. If you want to sleep alone on an escorted tour then you have no choice other than to pay the supplement. Some tour companies will not let you share with someone else if you are travelling alone anyway, where as others have guaranteed share. Bottom line is I accept having to paying a single supplement.
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