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Old 1st July 2005, 09:21 PM
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Hi yall


Going to Japan soon and hence need some yen.


Ideally id like a place that offers the best rates with no fees etc.


Ive heard of this place:

Nationwide Currency Services


And apparently they offer good rates with no fees.



Anyone know of any place/s along these lines?

Or

maybe i place that charges very little but offers exceptional rates?


Thnx yalll

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Old 2nd July 2005, 04:03 PM
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The best place to go is your local bank.

westpac have usually had the lowest fees (flat $7 per exchange) but check with them all some may offer you a better deal.

stay away from any exchange places in tourist hotspots: ie: downtown, airport etc.

You will normally get a better rate in AU than in JP
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Old 2nd July 2005, 07:21 PM
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Re: CURRENCY EXCHANGE PERTH!

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Going to Japan soon and hence need some yen.

Ideally id like a place that offers the best rates with no fees etc.
No need to exchange any currency. If you have a cirrus/ maestro enabled bank account (e.g. commonwealth, citibank) then you can just withdraw money when necessary at the Japanese ATMs. That's what I always do throughout the world when I travel.

Having said that, if you are keen to exchange money I find the exchange rates at Casinos are usually excellent. On several occasions I've checked the rates at banks, exchange booths etc and the Casinos always beat - with no charges or commission. The only problem is getting out without spending it, as my g/f will attest to...

If you need any specific advice on Nippon you can PM me.
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Old 2nd July 2005, 08:21 PM
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Having said that, if you are keen to exchange money I find the exchange rates at Casinos are usually excellent. On several occasions I've checked the rates at banks, exchange booths etc and the Casinos always beat - with no charges or commission. The only problem is getting out without spending it, as my g/f will attest to...
Oops - sorry - it's summer here and on a beautiful blue-sky day I've had too many beers (for Lindsay).

Of course, Casinos (in oz) are great for exchanging foreign currencies into Oz dollars. I presume they don't sell currencies, which of course was your original question.

FYI, I usually change about $200 at the airport and get the rest from ATMs in the destination country.
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Old 3rd July 2005, 05:24 PM
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Hi,

Not sure about Japan but in the last 2 years I have been to Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore and Indonesia to work and for holiday.

I am from Sydney and on my first trip to Thailand in April 2003 I was travelling with a colleague, who had worked all over South East Asia for 4 years previously, and I wanted to exchange some $AUD for Thai Baht at Sydney airport before boarding the plane. He had a quick look at the spread offered, buy and sell, and advised against it. Travelex was offering around 21 Baht to the $AUD. When we arrived in Bangkok and cleared immigration and customs there are two exchange booths and both offered around 24 Baht to the $AUD with no commission. I was glad for the advice given.

I have since been to Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore and Indonesia and continue the practice of keeping with me the amount of $AUD I think will need on the trip and exchanging it at these countries. In Jakarta and Kuala Lumpur there are foreign exchange booths before you clear customs and have found these to give you a lower rate then what you get after you clear customs. In most cities you will get good exchange rates but there are some banks/independents that offer very poor rates, try to avoid these and my rule is don't exchange at the first place you see. Hotels generally offer very poor exchange rates. If you are in remote areas as I have been while working in SE Asia and you are in need of money then find a bank otherwise use an ATM to withdraw cash.

I have also used Mastercard and Visa but have found they charge around $4 for using the foreign ATM for each transaction and then a percentage of the amount as well and the rate is not very good so I only use these as a last resort. I have used Amex for purchases overseas and have found their rates to be excellent with no fees.

On my last trip to Thailand (departed 8th June) I noticed that travelex was offering around 26.5 Baht to the $AUD at Sydney airport and when I walked off the plane in Bangkok I got 30.5 Baht to the $AUD. Pretty significant currency fluctuation (around 15% and I have seen it as high as 25%) that Travelex charges on the currency exchange. I have also noticed the James Cook exchanges and they are no better than Travelex.

Not sure about exchange rates at banks in Australia but my last experience with them 15 years ago when I had excess $US was that the rate was poor and also charged a commission.

Sorry to rave on but the best option in my opinion would be to exchange your $AUD at your destination. I will never ever exchange at an Australian airport ever.
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Old 4th July 2005, 12:12 PM
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Hi,

Not sure about Japan but in the last 2 years I have been to Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore and Indonesia to work and for holiday.

I am from Sydney and on my first trip to Thailand in April 2003 I was travelling with a colleague, who had worked all over South East Asia for 4 years previously, and I wanted to exchange some $AUD for Thai Baht at Sydney airport before boarding the plane. He had a quick look at the spread offered, buy and sell, and advised against it. Travelex was offering around 21 Baht to the $AUD. When we arrived in Bangkok and cleared immigration and customs there are two exchange booths and both offered around 24 Baht to the $AUD with no commission. I was glad for the advice given.
True. Buying foreign currency is always cheaper at the destination airport. Its simple economics - supply/ demand; economies of scale etc. However given that I only change such a small amount (if anything), I change money whenever/ wherever is most convenient.

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I have since been to Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore and Indonesia and continue the practice of keeping with me the amount of $AUD I think will need on the trip and exchanging it at these countries. In Jakarta and Kuala Lumpur there are foreign exchange booths before you clear customs and have found these to give you a lower rate then what you get after you clear customs. In most cities you will get good exchange rates but there are some banks/independants that offer very poor rates, try to avoid these and my rule is don't exchange at the first place you see. Hotels generally offer very poor exchange rates. If you are in remote areas as I have been while working in SE Asia and you are in need of money then find a bank otherwise use an ATM to withdraw cash.

I have also used Mastercard and Visa but have found they charge around $4 for using the foreign ATM for each transaction and then a percentage of the amount as well and the rate is not very good so I only use these as a last resort. I have used Amex for purchases overseas and have found their rates to be excellent with no fees.

On my last trip to Thailand (departed 8th June) I noticed that travelex was offering around 26.5 Baht to the $AUD at Sydney airport and when I walked off the plane in Bangkok I got 30.5 Baht to the $AUD. Pretty significant currency fluctuation (around 15% and I have seen it as high as 25%) that Travelex charges on the currency exchange. I have also noticed the James Cook exchanges and they are no better than Travelex.

Not sure about exchange rates at banks in Australia but my last experience with them 15 years ago when I had excess $US was that the rate was poor and also charged a commission.

Sorry to rave on but the best option in my opinion would be to exchange your $AUD at your destination. I will never ever exchange at an Australian airport ever.
JohnK, I'd recommend you investigate cirrus/ maestro capabilities & charges with your bank. I have found the exchange rates applied when I use overseas ATMS better than those offered at any exchange booth (airport and otherwise). Also Citibank does not charge me for using these O/S ATMs. Therefore for me, its a no-brainer - I use ATMs to withdraw cash in local currency (from my Japanese savings account) when travelling.

Of course mine is a Citibank (Japan) account and the rules/ conditions & charges may vary from Australian Bank saving accounts.
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Hi BlacKnox,

Thanks for your comments. I understand what you are saying but we are all different and we all have different experiences and I was just relaying my experiences in SE Asia.

For me the airport in Bangkok is just as convenient as the airport in Sydney. I normally exchange around $400AUD in Thailand (around 12,000 baht) which at the currency exchange in Sydney airport would result in a loss of around $50AUD based on the rates quoted previously.

As for credit cards and cash advances there maybe be better alternatives than what I have. It is up to the individual to see what suits them best. I have done most of my banking with the Commonwealth Bank, savings accounts, term deposits, home loans and progressing from there got first a Mastercard and then a Visa card. I am sure there are better deals around with other banks.

Maybe Mastercard/Visa or Commonwealth Bank is ripping me off and I have spoken to them about it and they have said that these are their rules.

On my last trip I withdrew 8,000 Baht in Pattaya 13th June and the equivalent $AUD amount with Visa is $260.61 + $4.00 for overseas ATM cash advance + $3.91 for foreign currency exchange which when added together give me an effective rate of 29.79 baht. The rate in Pattaya at the time was around 30.75 baht. On the 19th June in Bangkok I withdrew 2,000 baht and the equivalent amount with Visa is 63.33 + $4.00 for overseas ATM cash advance + $0.95 for foreign currency exchange which when added together give me an effective rate of 29.29 baht. The rate in Bangkok at the time was around 31.25 baht. You can see that the actual rate is quite good but with the charges the effective rate becomes very poor and the smaller the amount withdrawn the poorer the effective exchange rate.

Anyway these are my experiences. Hope they help someone.
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Old 4th July 2005, 02:08 PM
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In my experience, it seems that no matter what you do, you're going to be slugged one way or another for Forex!

On trip to Japan last month, ATM withdrawals using a Visa DEBIT card (as opposed to CREDIT card) attached to my regular bank account offered the best effective rate, providing I took out enough to diminish the impact of a $5 ATM withdrawal fee. On the other hand, actually using credit cards was pretty bad and worked out to be about 3 to 3.5% worse than the typical "rate of the day", as determined by various websites.

In Japan, buying JPY with AUD offered bad rates, but USD changing was fine. (Although I concur with above comments that in places like Singapore & Thailand, best rates I've seen were changing AUD in forex booths).
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Old 4th July 2005, 02:59 PM
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On trip to Japan last month, ATM withdrawals using a Visa DEBIT card (as opposed to CREDIT card) attached to my regular bank account offered the best effective rate, providing I took out enough to diminish the impact of a $5 ATM withdrawal fee.
That's right - I'm talking about debit cards. But my Japanese Citibank savings account doesn't attract ANY withdrawal fee, so it's great for me. A $5 ATM withdrawal fee does seem reasonable however for the Aussie banks. You'd just need to withdraw large sums at a time to offset the fee.

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Hi BlacKnox,

Thanks for your comments. I understand what you are saying ...
No, I think you are talking about credit cards and I cashcards . JohnK, I know Commonwealth uses the Cirrus/ Maestro/ Star system as my Mother always uses her Commonwealth cashcard (NOT credit card) when she visits me here (to withdraw yen from her Australian savings account). Cheers.
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When O/S I use my Westpac Debit Visa "Classic A/C" (old Bank of Melbourne account). The exchange rate seems quite good and there are no additional fees at all if I use an ATM beloning to one of the "Global ATM Alliance" partners.

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