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Old 25th July 2008, 02:56 PM
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Re: QF30 Emergency Landing in MNL after door "Popped"

I bet those sitting in the exit row where the door popped won't be in such a hurry to request exit row seating in the future!

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Old 25th July 2008, 02:57 PM
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Re: QF30 Emergency Landing in MNL after door "Popped"

Not Good News,

BUT

Doors are NOT locked,

The command ( or announcement ) is

"Crew please ARM doors and cross check"

Meaning that the safety slides in the doors are "armed" so if a door is opened, say in the case of a emergency, the slide deploys automatically,

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Old 25th July 2008, 02:58 PM
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Re: QF30 Emergency Landing in MNL after door "Popped"

Recently though they have dropped the "and cross check" bit.
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Old 25th July 2008, 03:05 PM
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I bet those sitting in the exit row where the door popped won't be in such a hurry to request exit row seating in the future!
Where did you read it was an exit door? I can still only find one reference for this story which is the Murdoch press! Who knows yet if the story is correct.
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Old 25th July 2008, 03:06 PM
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AI 182, PA 103 were bombed. UA 811 was an outward hinge cargo door. TWA 800 was a fuel tank explosion.
They are all examples of actual doors opening in a 747 in flight, the reasons why they opened I left for the experts, in some cases the work "alleged" should be used as I dont believe a difinitive cause has been established, but thats a topic for another thread another day!


Reading the article it sounds like a cargo door but as mentioned already, it is a press report and early days!
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Re: QF30 Emergency Landing in MNL after door "Popped"

And when the doors are "armed" if you open them from the inside the escape chute deploys, but if you open them from the outside it will not happen (nice safety feature)

The question is was there an actual de-pressurisation or did say a windows crack and it was a precaution only ?

I would not trust anything the press says... waiting for CASA etc to post some notification... then its clear what actually happened.

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They are all examples of actual doors opening in a 747 in flight, the reasons why they opened I left for the experts, in some cases the work "alleged" should be used as I dont believe a difinitive cause has been established, but thats a topic for another thread another day!


Reading the article it sounds like a cargo door but as mentioned already, it is a press report and early days!
Sorry. Don't wish to be rude but that is one of the silliest things I have ever read on this forum.
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Recently though they have dropped the "and cross check" bit.
I don't think Qantas have had the 'and cross check' bit for quite a while. Last time I flew DJ they still had it.

And SQ talks something about setting the doors to automatic.
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Sorry. Don't wish to be rude but that is one of the silliest things I have ever read on this forum.
I dont think you are being rude at all, I think you took my quote out of context, the point I was making in response to the OP was that a door can still open despite pressurisation of the cabin at the time.

The reason why the door popped was another discussion all together, be it metal fatigue or a bomb etc etc, in this case for instance it was in fact the pressurisation that made the door open killing an F/A:

CNN.com - US - Flight attendant killed, four others injured after emergency landing - November 20, 2000
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"Crew please ARM doors and cross check"
I get the ARM doors bit but what is the 'cross check'?

Is it that the FA who Arms the door must get someone else to Check that its Armed?
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