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    Call for global blacklist of unsafe airlines

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    From news.com.au:

    EU Transport Commissioner Antonio Tajani has called for a worldwide blacklist of unsafe airlines after a Yemeni airliner crashed off the coast of the Indian Ocean archipelago of Comoros.

    ”My idea is to propose a worldwide blacklist similar to the one we have in the European Union,” Tajani said in Brussels.
    A little premature to be implying the tragic accident off Comoros would have been prevented by such a no-fly list.


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    Re: Call for global blacklist of unsafe airlines

    Surely such a tool will end up being political rather than consumer-oriented?

    For example, despite recent events (and whether or not it is justified) I doubt the EU would spite itself enough to put Air France on such a list.

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    Re: Call for global blacklist of unsafe airlines

    So efectively the EU is saying we want to step-in, overrule country sovereignty and make our own rules.

    eg. Garuda (and all other Indonesian carriers) is banned in Europe, but quite happily flies to Australia.
    Other airline commonly flown by Australian is the Thai based One Two Go.

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    Re: Call for global blacklist of unsafe airlines

    Quote Originally Posted by moa999 View Post
    So efectively the EU is saying we want to step-in, overrule country sovereignty and make our own rules.

    eg. Garuda (and all other Indonesian carriers) is banned in Europe, but quite happily flies to Australia.
    Other airline commonly flown by Australian is the Thai based One Two Go.
    Umm no - they are suggesting that a world wide ban based on the same list as used in the EU be used. Just like having a World Anti Doping Agency in sport - countries can choose whether to participate or not.
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    Re: Call for global blacklist of unsafe airlines

    LIST OF AIR CARRIERS OF WHICH ALL OPERATIONS ARE SUBJECT TO A BAN WITHIN THE EUROPEAN COMMUNITY.

    It is a much longer list than you might otherwise have thought.
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    Re: Call for global blacklist of unsafe airlines

    Quote Originally Posted by simongr View Post
    Umm no - they are suggesting that a world wide ban based on the same list as used in the EU be used. Just like having a World Anti Doping Agency in sport - countries can choose whether to participate or not.
    The list as posted by straitman, seems to basically ban all airlines from a list of countries (plus a small number of other airlines), which is presumably where the point of overruling sovereignty comes from.

    A question, though, how does banning all Indonesian airlines from the EU resolve the safety issues?
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    Re: Call for global blacklist of unsafe airlines

    Quote Originally Posted by oz_mark View Post
    A question, though, how does banning all Indonesian airlines from the EU resolve the safety issues?
    I guess it does not but it ensures that they don't bring their 'unsafe' standards into the EU.

    For what it is worth the company that I work for has it's own 'Aviation Services' division that audits companies across the world and recommends who the company should do business with. I'm sure (some) other large companies do something similar.
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    Re: Call for global blacklist of unsafe airlines

    It is worth pointing out that the list of airlines banned from the EU has been recently updated. Garuda has been removed from the list

    All air carriers certified by the authorities with responsibility for regulatory oversight of Indonesia, with the exception of Garuda Indonesia, Airfast Indonesia, Mandala Airlines, and Ekspres Transportasi Antarbenua,
    I think it weakens the arguments that Garuda should be banned from Australia.

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    Re: Call for global blacklist of unsafe airlines

    Quote Originally Posted by oz_mark View Post
    It is worth pointing out that the list of airlines banned from the EU has been recently updated. Garuda has been removed from the list

    I think it weakens the arguments that Garuda should be banned from Australia.
    Yeh, it was mentioned elsewhere on another thread that they were off the list

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    There's a lot of African airlines on that list. I guess there's a lot of good reason for that.
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