Hotels - It pays to shop around

[Dave Noble]

Now I know for a fact that hotels do not rent rooms on a per person basis, except for a small fee providing a useless cot for a 3rd adult, so who is making the money here? Tour operators love single people more than anyone else.

That is factually incorrect. There are a lot of hotels which do quote prices in a per person basis ( typically outside of the major chains )

Dave

[NM]

NM I understand your point but that is not how it works in practice. Why? Because I have done the tours before and I have seen the difference between the single room and the double rooms. I would understand if the quality of the rooms was the same but they are not the same rooms yet the single person gets charged a supplement. I remember one room in Munich when I put my suitcase down and there was hardly any room to turn around.

I expect the tour company has a deal where they pay a per room rate and when it comes times to allocate people to rooms they look at the single traveller and say to themselves they can put that person in the smallest room since they are by themselves. Could you imagine if two peope were sharing that room in Munich and had to put two suit cases in there! I agree its not fare when the single person has paid such a premium price, but its gonna happen like that.

... including a useles continental breakfast (which to me is worth $1) and no dinner.

You may not put an value on the so-called continental breakfast, but I am sure the hotel is charging the tour company for it. Its the forced inclusion of unwanted costs that keeps me away from such tours.

Now I know for a fact that hotels do not rent rooms on a per person basis...

Just be glad they don't use hotels that charge by the hour .

[GDSman]

Back to the original thread - hotel shopping is even more complex than air shopping. Even for major chains there are different distribution methods - real time connection via GDS or to some websites, allotment to a wholesaler like QF Hols and late availability inventory placed on an extranet site like Wotif.
The result when combined with possibly poor revenue management practices is a variation in price and a difficulty in predicting just where the best price will be found for the consumer. Most large travel agent chains and online agents negotiate rates with hotels to protect against volatility. In the example here Chrisb has lucked out on QF Hols still holding some old discounted allotment when the hotel and other retailers are capitalising on the shortage in availability by revenue managing - read upping the price.

[JohnK]

That is factually incorrect. There are a lot of hotels which do quote prices in a per person basis ( typically outside of the major chains )

Sorry Dave, I haven't come across any hotels that charge on a per person basis.

Just be glad they don't use hotels that charge by the hour .

I may have walked past one or two of these types of hotels.

[straitman]

I may have walked past one or two of these types of hotels.

... in which part of which town/city

[oz_mark]

I may have walked past one or two of these types of hotels.

Walked past? Just one or two?

It is the same with escorted tours around the world. Pick a tour and then add on 30%+ if you want a single room.

Package pricing is one of those things which for me often seems to be in the realm of numerolgy. I have booked packages that have had airfares on air tickets being more that the cost of the whole package.

With most packages, you are given a "run of house" room. For me that has varied from rooms the size of broom closets all the way up to three bedroom suites, so you just never can tell. When I book a package (which I haven't done for a while) I just have to accept the single supplement and have a good holiday

[maninblack]

Walked past? Just one or two?



Package pricing is one of those things which for me often seems to be in the realm of numerolgy. I have booked packages that have had airfares on air tickets being more that the cost of the whole package.

With most packages, you are given a "run of house" room. For me that has varied from rooms the size of broom closets all the way up to three bedroom suites, so you just never can tell. When I book a package (which I haven't done for a while) I just have to accept the single supplement and have a good holiday

Most packages through qantas holidays advertise the ROH rooms because they are cheapest but you can nearly always get a higher grade room when booking, of course you will pay more, but they are available, just ask. Qantas holidays can be very good value even for business trips as they often seem to have substantially cheaper airfares in the bundle.

[JohnK]

... in which part of which town/city

Transit hotels in Bangkok and Singapore.

[straitman]

Transit hotels in Bangkok and Singapore.

....and here I was thinking of something else entirely. How silly of me

Sorry

[markis10]

I would be making a claim on the following program if I was the OP:

Lowest Internet Rate Guarantee <H2>

</H2>Every hotel reservation booked through an InterContinental Hotels Group web site is guaranteed to have the lowest rate publicly available on the internet or IHG will match a lower rate under the following conditions:

If you find a rate on a competing web site that is lower than the lowest rate shown on the 'Best Available' search of InterContinental Hotels Group web site, InterContinental Hotels Group will honor that rate for the nights for which the lower rate was found, plus give you an additional 10% discount off the lower rate found upon its verification by InterContinental Hotels Group.

For the purpose of the Lowest Internet Rate Guarantee, a competing web site is defined as a web site that is not owned by InterContinental Hotels Group.

Rooms on the other web site must be publicly available, viewable and bookable on the Internet at the time of verification.