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Old 21st November 2007, 03:48 PM
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Red-e-deal increase

Effective for sale and travel on/after Friday 23 November 2007, Qantas will increase base fares for Red-e-Deal and Super Saver fare families by 2.4% on the following markets.
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Old 21st November 2007, 03:57 PM
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I note they are all basically longhaul routes ...

... qantas are not trying to avoid Fuel Fine increases are they? Nah .. couldn't be
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Old 21st November 2007, 04:21 PM
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I note they are all basically longhaul routes ...

... qantas are not trying to avoid Fuel Fine increases are they? Nah .. couldn't be
I just wish they would roll the fuel fines into base fares completely across the board. If they were to increase all fares by the current fuel fine rate and remove all fuel fines I would be one of the first to congratulate them. And even if they want to roll in another 2.5% increase then I would still be happy.
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Old 21st November 2007, 04:28 PM
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Re: Red-e-deal increase

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I note they are all basically longhaul routes ...

... qantas are not trying to avoid Fuel Fine increases are they? Nah .. couldn't be
No doubt with the oil price going the way it is, QF will be able to justify an increase to the fuel fines soon too.

DJ will be even worse soon if they haven't started hedging more recently.
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Old 21st November 2007, 04:30 PM
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I just wish they would roll the fuel fines into base fares completely across the board. If they were to increase all fares by the current fuel fine rate and remove all fuel fines I would be one of the first to congratulate them. And even if they want to roll in another 2.5% increase then I would still be happy.
I think we all wish every airline would do the same.

Unfortunately I don't see Qantas doing it anytime soon, as it would invariably damage loadings as the public then perceive their fares to be more expensive than they actually are.

I think its going to take action by IATA or a governing body to get airlines to do so (with the exception of Emirates and the like who already are voluntarily)

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Old 21st November 2007, 04:32 PM
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Re: Red-e-deal increase

It would also -cough- hurt the profitability on FF award fares -cough-
so I don't see it changing any time soon.

Maybe as part of AnyFare they also let you pay the fuel fine via points
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I think we all wish every airline would do the same.

Unfortunately I don't see Qantas doing it anytime soon, as it would invariably damage loadings as the public then perceive their fares to be more expensive than they actually are.

I think its going to take action by IATA or a governing body to get airlines to do so (with the exception of Emirates and the like who already are voluntarily)

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Yeah, I know its not going to happen any time soon. I just like to rant about it . It would be great of IATA or someone would set some rules about it. Do you think that will ever happen?
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Old 21st November 2007, 06:09 PM
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No doubt with the oil price going the way it is, QF will be able to justify an increase to the fuel fines soon too.

DJ will be even worse soon if they haven't started hedging more recently.
The old pea and thimble trick.18 months ago the oil price reached $US75 a barrel,the Aussie was at 72 cents so an oil price of $A104.At present with oil around $US95 and the Aussie around 90 cents the oil price is $A105.50.
Qantas and the oil companies are having a ball at our expense.
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Re: Red-e-deal increase

The price of west texas crude has little to do with AV gas prices (which is higher per barrel )and refining margins and many more airlines after that AV gas as they ramp up cap..more LCCs take to the sky the higher that margin will become....
Because Dom fuel fines on QF are standard irrespective of distance it makes sence that the longerhaul routes will be hit with price increases first.Many Int Carriers have already wacked up their fuel surcharges..in fact I swa a travel blog quoting UA have made 8 fare increases since the beginning of Sep at 5 and $10 a throw. Petrol at the bowser about to push towards 1.50 per litre
and the Aussie dollar looks like its run out of puff as well will have issues.
we should actually worry if OPEC or the Arab states move Fuel pricing to euros...where we wouldbe in real trouble as the AUD has stayed steady
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Old 21st November 2007, 06:35 PM
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The price of west texas crude has little to do with AV gas prices (which is higher per barrel )and refining margins and many more airlines after that AV gas as they ramp up cap..more LCCs take to the sky the higher that margin will become....
Because Dom fuel fines on QF are standard irrespective of distance it makes sence that the longerhaul routes will be hit with price increases first.Many Int Carriers have already wacked up their fuel surcharges..in fact I swa a travel blog quoting UA have made 8 fare increases since the beginning of Sep at 5 and $10 a throw. Petrol at the bowser about to push towards 1.50 per litre
and the Aussie dollar looks like its run out of puff as well will have issues.
we should actually worry if OPEC or the Arab states move Fuel pricing to euros...where we wouldbe in real trouble as the AUD has stayed steady
The price of west texas crude,avgas or gold have really not risen much if quoted in euros,$A,GB pound or even the yen.The apparent rapid rise in prices is due to the rapid collapse of the $US.Warren Buffett is still short on the $US,Bette Midler has asked to be paid in gold,the sub prime mess is not over,the US has a problem with debt because of too easy credit which they have "fixed"by lowering interest rates.Also if OPEC start pricing in anything else but $US(and they are discussing a basket of currencies not the euro) and the $US is no longer the worlds reserve currency I dont see the $US appreciating against the $A.

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