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Old 3rd September 2008, 05:45 PM
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I was told in an honest and open manner there was only one available seat for upgrade (out of ~15 empty) due to catering orders etc.
Quite often I've been given an ODU on the condition that catering was "not assured"; it's even been printed on the boarding pass. I've never actually missed out on food but was prepared to, so it's odd that sometimes they would simply say "no" because of catering.

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Old 3rd September 2008, 06:15 PM
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Quite often I've been given an ODU on the condition that catering was "not assured"; it's even been printed on the boarding pass. I've never actually missed out on food but was prepared to, so it's odd that sometimes they would simply say "no" because of catering.
Notwithstanding it being printed on the BP, I imagine that many upgraded PAX would bleat relentlessly if they didn't get the catering.
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Old 3rd September 2008, 06:29 PM
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Re: Changes to ODU's?

If the flight shows J2 then they are still willing to sell two J seats. So its not about catering since the same catering requirements exist for a paying J passenger and an upgraded Y passenger.

They may well be holding those seats back for possible sales. Its all a black art and purposely not clearly defined.

In may QPs they are willing to hold your boarding pass at the desk and process an upgrade if seats remain available when the flight "closes". Perhaps they were already hold at least two BPs for other members who had requested upgrades earlier and just had not actually processed them yet??? All we can do is speculate while chooms steams.
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Old 3rd September 2008, 07:23 PM
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Re: Changes to ODU's?

I don't mean to be picky, but it's only a short flight anyway..
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Old 3rd September 2008, 07:31 PM
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I was denied an ODU today and observed 2 empty seats in J.

Dem da breaks!
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Old 3rd September 2008, 08:16 PM
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Re: Changes to ODU's?

The flight that I think Choom was on was delayed until at least to 1745 from 1700.

Arguing that the J2 tix could be sold (or the infamous catering thingy) don't make a lot of sense to me given they became available in a short time frame in front of scheduled departure and then flight was delayed at least 45 mins.

'Fraid that QF just isn't that serious about facilitating ODUs.

Choom's experience confirm's this view IMHO.

BUT still just speculation - like the rest of you fellow posters!!

Suspect new system ain't that friendly for ODUs - to be confirmed (or refuted) with further evidence. Hopefully refuted for all our sakes.

Personally can't be bothered jousting with QF on these sort of upgrade situations anymore...rather get a good seat in Y and stock up on QP goodies!!!
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I don't mean to be picky, but it's only a short flight anyway..
I have two whY flights coming up and have upgraded 1 to J using points and couldnt upgrade the other - I am unsure what I am going to do as I have not flown whY on QF since Sep 06.
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Old 3rd September 2008, 10:36 PM
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Re: Changes to ODU's?

OK - back in Brisvegas after a pretty uneventful flight and some awful crackers and dip in whY.

Yep - 2 empty J seats.

I spoke with 3rd lounge dragon on way to gate and she explained the deal a hell of a lot better than the first two lounge dragons.

It is all to do with the new computer system.

Each flight is allocated a certain amount of 'U' fares and ODU's. This cannot be overridden by lounge dragons - unlike previously.

Apparently, even CL lounge dragons must seek approval from higher authorities to process ODU's (but if you are CL, most likely you are flying J anyway).

As said by others the topic of whether we should be allowed to use points if we have them and not be dictated to by QF on upgrades has been discussed before, however, after seeing it first hand today I have come to the conclusion it stinks.

I mean, Qantas would want us to blow our points on short haul ODU's than saving up and getting long haul in F for free (+fines) right?

Anyway, my two cents.
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(but if you are CL, most likely you are flying J anyway).
Careful not to stereotype. The 2 CL members I know fly almost always on Paid Disc Y tickets.
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Old 4th September 2008, 08:18 AM
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I have two whY flights coming up and have upgraded 1 to J using points and couldnt upgrade the other - I am unsure what I am going to do as I have not flown whY on QF since Sep 06.
Here's my strategy for dom Y travel
  1. Have lots to drink in the QP so you don't care too much about the flight
  2. Take a sandwich zip lock bag into QP and make yourself up a bread roll with cheese and ham filling to take with you on the plane in case you feel like a snack
  3. Sit at the back where there most likely spare seats to spreadout over (if any) and close to back loos to divest yourself of aforementioned extra drinks in P and lots of galley space for a leg stretch
  4. Befriend back galley cabin crew who are normally surprised, but delighted to find high status fliers at the back
  5. Walk very casually and nonchalantly off the aircraft (last) as if you really are not at all in a hurry and thus appear super cool

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