Award Trips from LAX to Ausralia: Why so Many Points?
Award Trips from LAX to Ausralia: Why so Many Points?.
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Re: Award Trips from LAX to Ausralia: Why so Many Points?
Quote:
Originally Posted by inpd
Is there some trick to getting the Qantas flight with fewer points? Do they offer special dates routes which require lesser points?
Not that I know about.
Recently, May 25 2005, they made changes that made most long distance awards more expensive. SYD-BKK, SYD-SIN used to be 50,000 points pre May 25 and now it is 60,000 points. Some, but not many, SYD-HNL for one (I think), have decreased in points required
Occassionally they offer discounts on less popular routes, CNS-NGO on that comes to mind. These can be seen on Qantas website or if you prescribe to e-news then you may some of these every month. Very rare will you see a points discount for SYD/MEL/BNE-LAX routes.
It seems unusual that United would do the flight for just 60K points
but Qantas for 96K points.
Oh well, looks like I'll be flying united instead of Qantas :-( since I
will have to take just one round trip LAX-MEL trip plus a few
domestic trips to get me the award trip while with Qantas
it will take two round LAX-MEL trips plus a few domestic trips!
You need to look at the earn:burn ratio - how many UA flights do you need to make to get enough points for the UA award, compared to how many QF flights you need to make to get the QF reward.
Factor into that the differences in the programs - QF short-distance domestic travellers will rack up points quickly, due to the 1000 mile minimum, and things like that.
Next, which airline is profitable and which airline is operating under ch.11? Perhaps the habit of practically givig seats away is why UA loses money hand over fist.
Next, which airline is profitable and which airline is operating under ch.11? Perhaps the habit of practically givig seats away is why UA loses money hand over fist.
Dave
Ouch......
At least you can get a 1 way reward with your 60,000 points. Which isnt such a bad thing.. :wink:
Next, which airline is profitable and which airline is operating under ch.11? Perhaps the habit of practically givig seats away is why UA loses money hand over fist.
Dave
Ouch......
At least you can get a 1 way reward with your 60,000 points. Which isnt such a bad thing.. :wink:
Depends if you want a one-way trip to the LOTFAP, I myself only fly there when I absolutely, positively, HAVE to go there, I avoid the LOTFAP if I possibly can.
Dave
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At least you can get a 1 way reward with your 60,000 points. Which isnt such a bad thing.. :wink:
Rob
Actually, the one way reward is not kind of useless.
Return LAX-MEL costs about US$1000, but a oneway ticket
costs US$700 so you burn 48K points for $300 less tax!
What puzzled me is that I can go from JFK (NY) to LHR for 50K
Qantas points return (worth about US$800) because its a BA
flight and direct. But the LAX-SYD flight (worth about US$900)
requires nearly double the points! I guess Qantas makes alot
of money of these LAX-SYD/BNE/MEL flights.
At least you can get a 1 way reward with your 60,000 points. Which isnt such a bad thing.. :wink:
Rob
Actually, the one way reward is not kind of useless.
Return LAX-MEL costs about US$1000, but a oneway ticket
costs US$700 so you burn 48K points for $300 less tax!
What puzzled me is that I can go from JFK (NY) to LHR for 50K
Qantas points return (worth about US$800) because its a BA
flight and direct. But the LAX-SYD flight (worth about US$900)
requires nearly double the points! I guess Qantas makes alot
of money of these LAX-SYD/BNE/MEL flights and there isn't
much competition (only UA and Qantas fly directly between
US and Australia)
What puzzled me is that I can go from JFK (NY) to LHR for 50K
Qantas points return (worth about US$800) because its a BA
flight and direct. But the LAX-SYD flight (worth about US$900)
requires nearly double the points! I guess Qantas makes alot
of money of these LAX-SYD/BNE/MEL flights.
The FF point cost is not based on cost of a ticket to purchase but distance. JFK-LHR is only 3452 miles whilst LAX-SYD is over twice as far at 7488 miles
Re: Award Trips from LAX to Ausralia: Why so Many Points?
Quote:
Originally Posted by inpd
Hi,
I am a FF with Qantas (nearly 60K points)
I am a FF with United (will have 35K by end of year)
To get a return award trip to the Australia from the U.S.
with united will set me back 60K points.
To get the same award trip with Qantas will set me back
96K points over 50% more.
Is there some trick to getting the Qantas flight with fewer
points? Do they offer special dates routes which require
lesser points?
Actually it gets even better... with UA you need 90k miles to fly C class to the USA - and that's good all the way to JFK not just California.
Or else if you buy B fare tickets on UA you can upgrade from Y to C for 15k miles one way... once you reach 1P (Gold) on UA you get 100% bonus so you accrue more than 15k miles when you fly to SFO or LAX one way... so in a nutshell you can buy Economy and fly Business every single time (provided of course you manage to upgrade, but that's much easier with UA than with QF IMHO)
Why such a big difference when you compare UA & QF? It comes down to one thing... COMPETITION (or the lack of it when you talk about QF)
Just think of the old times when Ansett was around... perhaps we have some hope with Singapore Airlines due to start their SYD to USA flights sometime in the not too distant future?
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