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Old 3rd December 2007, 07:53 PM
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Re: I am mourning

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Dont worry QF009 in 1972 I was an ALP booth captain in Billy big ears electorate.You know the story that at 17 if you are not a socialist you have no heart but if still one at 30 you have no brain?
I like it both ways - I'm a good little centrist.

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Old 3rd December 2007, 08:01 PM
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Re: I am mourning

Like I said in post #47

'Whilst we have politicians we will always have these problems from both sides.'

A bit like another a few groups in our community. You can't live without them though you prefer not to live with them
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Old 3rd December 2007, 08:13 PM
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Can you see the difference Reggie? Tampa was a deliberate lie to win an election. if we continue with the pigs lets talk about wheat and Iraq and the AWB - not so keen eh reggie?
Dragonman,

With all due respect, I dont really care about either side as both sides are as bad as each other. I started this thread, and followed up with responses as a tongue in cheek. If I have offended, sorry.

I hope your faith in the cleaner side of politics is paid back.
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Old 3rd December 2007, 08:15 PM
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Re: I am mourning

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Well reggie I wouldnt worry too much yet.I think this might turn out to have been a good election to lose.with the turmoil in the US credit markets an economic downturn is a distinct possibility.If the US and Europe go into a tailspin who will the Chinese export to?If they slow down australia will be in the middle of it as well.None of this will have been 07's fault but try selling that to the electorate.
Thanks drron, I am not worried. The only thing I am interested in is if I have this weeks powerball, because neither side can that.
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Re: I am mourning

And if you thought Australian political discourse is flawed...

Kremlin hails Putin election win - World - theage.com.au

Contrast that to JH's and KR's very gracious concession and victory speeches on election night.

And on that note I think some people ought to take a chill pill...
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And on that note I think some people ought to take a chill pill...
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Re: I am mourning

Well folks, for what it's worth, I feel there is going to be a lot of dissapointed people that are expecting monumental change from the newsih ALP Government.

Many (died in the wool) Labor voters that I know are expecting huge social changes, but I don't feel this will occur. I expect that ecconomicaly things wont change much if at all, and the IR changes wont be significant either.

I had an intersting conversation with the spouse of a federal Labor member a few weeks before the election. The spouse is a very senior HR practioner for one of Australia's larger corporations.

The comment was made that common law contracts (CLC)(that are ALP policy) have there own problems just like AWAs have theres. Rudd and Gillard touted CLCs as a universal panacia come fix-it-all for the perceived or otherwise problems associated with AWAs. The changes arround existing AWAs will not take place for five years! I.e. towards the end of Labors second term.

Simply expect more of the same with some playing arround at the edges. As for aviation, we are an electoraly thin bunch, invissible to many, and the industry is so complex that politians and bureucrats for years have been bamboozled by it.

The Civil Aviation Safety Authority (CASA) and AirServices Australia (ASA), in their curent and previous incarnations, have for years been able to pull the wool of the polies eyes regardless of which sides in power so don't expect any changes with the new Government.

Everything from Sydney Airport to General Aviation has been largely ignored by governments for decades because we are electoraly insignificant and they don't want to understand the beasts.
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Well folks, for what it's worth, I feel there is going to be a lot of dissapointed people that are expecting monumental change from the newsih ALP Government.

Many (died in the wool) Labor voters that I know are expecting huge social changes, but I don't feel this will occur. I expect that ecconomicaly things wont change much if at all, and the IR changes wont be significant either.

I had an intersting conversation with the spouse of a federal Labor member a few weeks before the election. The spouse is a very senior HR practioner for one of Australia's larger corporations.

The comment was made that common law contracts (CLC)(that are ALP policy) have there own problems just like AWAs have theres. Rudd and Gillard touted CLCs as a universal panacia come fix-it-all for the perceived or otherwise problems associated with AWAs. The changes arround existing AWAs will not take place for five years! I.e. towards the end of Labors second term.

Simply expect more of the same with some playing arround at the edges. As for aviation, we are an electoraly thin bunch, invissible to many, and the industry is so complex that politians and bureucrats for years have been bamboozled by it.

The Civil Aviation Safety Authority (CASA) and AirServices Australia (ASA), in their curent and previous incarnations, have for years been able to pull the wool of the polies eyes regardless of which sides in power so don't expect any changes with the new Government.

Everything from Sydney Airport to General Aviation has been largely ignored by governments for decades because we are electoraly insignificant and they don't want to understand the beasts.
brucek,

Well said

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