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Old 30th June 2008, 10:59 AM
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Apologies guys I wasnt meaning to imply that you were doing that - just that I have seen people doing it. I am certainly lucky with my current boss in reimbursing some sometimes very high bills
It is certainly easier when things like meals/drinks with clients are involved to do things on the actual expense basis.

HAving used both systems, I prefer the actual expense system, at least for most of my travel, which is domestic anyway. Certainly for overseas travel, per diem's can be easier to manage (with exchange rates).

There is also a wierd bit in the company travel policy that reduces a per diem on the day of travel as the meal will be supplied on the plane!

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Old 30th June 2008, 12:31 PM
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This thread promted me to go look back at the ATO definitions for 2007-2008 (and now doubt tomorrow they'll have 2008-2009 available). FOr the record: TD 2007/21 - Income tax: what are the reasonable travel and meal allowance expense amounts for 2007-2008? (As at 25 July 2007)

Some interesting reading. Incidentals can be claimed even when not a full day of travel ie overnight away, 1 nights accomodation and 2 days incidentals.

9. The reasonable amount applies in full to each day of travel covered by the allowance, without the need to apportion for any part-day travel on the first and last day.

As a smaller company I just use the tax office rates as my 'travel poicy'.
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As a smaller company I just use the tax office rates as my 'travel poicy'.
As a large company, ours are typically less than 50% of the ATO rates, and some are quite a bit less (such as USA being less than 30%).
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ours are typically less than 50% of the ATO rates
That is interesting. Possibly a reflection of the better corporate discounts that the larger corporate can negotiate on hotels/meals.

When I travel on the ATO rates I do find that it easily possible to spend that much on the additional costs of travel.
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That is interesting. Possibly a reflection of the better corporate discounts that the larger corporate can negotiate on hotels/meals.

When I travel on the ATO rates I do find that it easily possible to spend that much on the additional costs of travel.
My per-diems are not for hotels, just for meals and incidentals. Hotels are covered as real expenses. No corporate discounts or negotiated rates for meals. They cost the same for me as for anyone else who walks into the same restaurant.
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Hotels are covered as real expenses
Can you book rooms with club access?
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Can you book rooms with club access?
If I booked a room for which breakfast was included ( e.g. booked a club room with breakfast in the lounge ) the per diem rate paid by the company would drop by $12

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If I booked a room for which breakfast was included ( e.g. booked a club room with breakfast in the lounge ) the per diem rate paid by the company would drop by $12
And mine by about $20. Hence why I don't tend to want rooms that include breakfast!
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And mine like this....

Breakfast -10%
Lunch -20%
Dinner -35%

-% of per diem rate.

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Can you book rooms with club access?
Hotels are booked by the corporate travel agency at the "preferred" hotels at negotiated rates. This generally does not include Club or Executive level rooms. However, hotel program status can sometimes help there . On a recent trip to Malaysia, my work colleague staying at the same hotel held top tier status with the hotel and so had lounge access. He just asked for two room keys and gave me one so I also have access to the exec lounge by using his room key in the lift. The lounge became our after-hours office each evening .

Same goes for car rental. Real expenses and booked at the corporate rate. Upgrades to larger vehicles are permitted if travelling with other staff members and sharing the car, otherwise its a "standard" size car (such as Chevy Malibu in the USA). But the corp rates include all the insurances, waivers etc, so makes it simple - just decline all extras offered.

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