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Old 23rd January 2005, 10:00 AM
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Singapore Air tells Qantas to share

Singapore Air tells Qantas to share

By Scott Rochfort in Toulouse
January 20, 2005

Singapore Airlines chief executive Chew Choon Seng took some time off from Tuesday night's launch of the Airbus 380 super jumbo to launch his most vocal attack to date on the Qantas stranglehold on the Sydney to Los Angeles route.

With federal Transport Minister John Anderson set to reopen the long-stalled Open Skies talks with the Singapore Government in the middle of next month, Mr Chew used part his keynote speech on the A380 to extol the virtues of operating such a plane on a route that Singapore cannot fly, Sydney to Los Angeles.

To drive home his point, Mr Chew called two press conferences. One dealt with Singapore Air's taking delivery of the first A380 early next year; the other was on the airline's desire to fly from the Australian east coast to the United States.

Qantas and United are the only airlines with permission to fly direct services on the route.

"When we put in our bid for access to trans-Pacific operations beyond Australia we were asked to be patient initially and to await the return of stability to the industry post 9/11, post Bali attacks and so on," Mr Chew said.

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Advertisement"Subsequent to that we were also asked to take a raincheck [by the Howard Government] until the elections were over. Lately we were told that it would take 12 to 18 months, so we're hoping to have a manifestation of that going forward."

Asked why he decided to call a press conference on the issue, Mr Chew said: "Sometimes the message doesn't get through, so we thought we should be repeating it one more time. We are rewinding and replaying the same message."

Mr Chew said the arrival of Singapore Air on the route would stimulate more passenger traffic, particularly from the US, which he said had largely been stymied by the lack of capacity and high Qantas fares on the route.

While Mr Chew declined to indicate how far he saw fares falling if Singapore Air entered the route, he noted the law of supply and demand as a major factor.

"There's limited supply on the route and strong demand."

In relation to Qantas's plans to deploy its first A380 on the US route, Mr Chew said: "I think it's no secret that that's the one route on which there's relatively [little] competition for Qantas and where the yields are very high, so therefore a combination of lower costs and very high fares; it's natural for anybody [to make good profits]."

Qantas chief executive Geoff Dixon, who happened to be sitting next to Mr Chew at the A380 briefing, said granting Singapore Air rights to fly to the US would be unfair, given that Qantas is restricted in the flights it can operate from Singapore. He noted Qantas was restricted to three-times weekly services to Paris, compared with Singapore's twice daily services.

But Mr Chew said: "The truth of the matter is that at the moment we have no ability to operate beyond Australia on a long-haul basis.

"But Qantas on the other hand, for a long time and at the moment, is operating beyond Singapore to currently Frankfurt and Heathrow no less than 24 times a week [through Singapore]."

"We have zero, zilch, nothing."

Mr Chew said Singapore Airlines was still interested in developing an A380 maintenance facility with Qantas, and other A380 customers Thai Airways and Malaysia Airlines.

Source: http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2005/...110810741.html

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Old 23rd January 2005, 12:40 PM
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Qantas and United are the only airlines with permission to fly direct services on the route.
This is not true. Any Australian or US airline can fly the route. Continental and NorthWest used to do so, but pulled out several years ago. Hawaiian Airlines also fly direct services from USA to Australia. I am unsure whether Canadian Airlines is permitted 5th freedom rights to fly passenegers HNL-SYD, or if they can only on-carry those commmencing in Canada.
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Old 23rd January 2005, 12:49 PM
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Anything that will mean cheaper airfares and better services, I will agree.

In fact, I would think the Fed Govt should create another "Qantas" just for the International Route only so we can create some more competition.

People say to me that since Ansett died, QF has been embarking in harakiri mission (ie: crap Cust Serv, high price, delays and stuffs) in the name of profit.

Think of JetStar Asia, ValueAir versus Singapore Air. Hell, my bro even said that he reckons ValueAir has better service than QF.

Value Air I think is a Malaysian airline but Malaysia also has its own national carrier. Since then, it is possible to fly to singapore from Malaysia at almost the same price as from Melb-Syd or to Brisbane/Gld Coast, and that's 2 countries.
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Qantas and United are the only airlines with permission to fly direct services on the route.
This is not true. Any Australian or US airline can fly the route. Continental and NorthWest used to do so, but pulled out several years ago. Hawaiian Airlines also fly direct services from USA to Australia. I am unsure whether Canadian Airlines is permitted 5th freedom rights to fly passenegers HNL-SYD, or if they can only on-carry those commmencing in Canada.
Not to forget that NZ also has traffic rights on this route, which they operated non-stop until recently.

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Not to forget that NZ also has traffic rights on this route, which they operated non-stop until recently.

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Ahh, yes, I always try toi forget NZ . I think they still have some "Direct" though not non-stop services from Australia to USA. So that would make SG the third *A carrier to operate the route. No wonder *A needs so many carriers if two of them can't make a go of such a lucrative route like Aus-USA.

If SG get to start the route, I expect EK will be hot on their heels as well.
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NZs flights arent direct (change of flight number) although well-timed connections in several cases.

Singapore Airlines code is SQ.
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NZs flights arent direct (change of flight number) although well-timed connections in several cases.
Hmm, at which interim port does NZ7136 change its flight number between BNE and LAX? And same for NZ7124 between MEL and LAX? And NZ7104 and NZ7118 between SYD and LAX? Or NZ7004 between SYD and SFO? Or NZ7024 between MEL and SFO?

Now, I realise these generally involve a change of aircraft and the 70xx flight is like a codeshare with another NZ flight AKL-LAX or AKL-SFO, but they are sold as a single flight number from BNE/SYD/MEL to LAX/SFO and show in the NZ on-line timetable as direct one-stop services.
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Singapore Airlines code is SQ.
Of course. I knew SG did not look right and originally typed SIA. Sorry for the confusion.
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Hmm, at which interim port does NZ7136 change its flight number between BNE and LAX? And same for NZ7124 between MEL and LAX? And NZ7104 and NZ7118 between SYD and LAX? Or NZ7004 between SYD and SFO? Or NZ7024 between MEL and SFO?

Now, I realise these generally involve a change of aircraft and the 70xx flight is like a codeshare with another NZ flight AKL-LAX or AKL-SFO, but they are sold as a single flight number from BNE/SYD/MEL to LAX/SFO and show in the NZ on-line timetable as direct one-stop services.
I had forgotten the through-codes. Far more used to NZ1/2 5/6 etc for the long hauls and NZ 1xx for trans-tasman.

Actually some of the flights dont involve change of a/c (744s operate a small number of trans-tasman flights) but you do need to deplane for the transit in AKL.

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