Qantas 'the flying dog': poll ..... Are they right?

[edison]

Finally, the truth (from customers) has come out!


Qantas 'the flying dog': poll - National - smh.com.au

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Qantas 'the flying dog': poll

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May 29, 2007 - 8:08AM

Australia's national carrier Qantas has been voted worst international airline in a consumer survey.


The survey of 4,000 subscribers to consumer magazine Choice also found Qantas' low-cost subsidiary Jetstar to be the worst domestic airline.
Singapore Airlines was voted top international airline ,while minnow Regional Express was the favoured domestic operator.
Choice asked subscribers to rate airlines for value for money, booking processes, convenience, the check-in procedure, inflight service, including food and entertainment, as well as seat comfort, leg room and cleanliness.
Qantas scored 63 per cent compared to Singapore Airline's 78 per cent.
On the domestic front, Qantas fared little better with a 67 per cent rating, with consumers labelling the service "arrogant and aloof", while Jetstar scored just 62 per cent.
One respondent described Jetstar staff as "uniformly surly, unhelpful and most definitely unwelcoming".
Regional Express won a survey-high rating of 79 per cent followed by Virgin Blue with 71 per cent.
"Virgin Blue staff attempt to make what is a reasonably unpleasant experience flying with a no-frills service, light-hearted and enjoyable," one respondent said.
One possible reason Qantas may have fared so poorly is that people may be more critical of their national carrier, the magazine suggested.
Travellers said they continued to fly with Qantas to earn frequent flyer points even though they rated the airline significantly lower than average.
AAP

[shillard]

Subscribers to CHOICE magazine?

Now there's a representative sample.....ahem.


Nothing more to be said, really. Go look up the "Gloria Jeans" thread under the "top gripes" section of www.notegoodenough.org

That will tell you all about CHOICE subscribers.

[Sequel]

They mightn't be the worst, but there are definately better airlines to fly (which I do when I can).

[simongr]

I wonder how much of this poll is connected to the APA bid...

I also wonder what benchmarks the subscribers are using - how many other airlines are they comparing against. I wonder if China Air, Air Pakistan, RyanAir, AA were even on the list...

I am not surprised that JQ was worst domestic airline - it is the most no frills airline domestically so how can it compete with DJ and QF.

[edison]

Well, read all the reader's comments .... That would tell you the story. And yes, some really bad experiences .....

The Sydney Morning Herald Blogs: News Blog

[simongr]

I have issues with someone rating an airline when they can even get the competitor's names correct:

It is not only bad but worst...
The in-flight staffs are notoriusly yes very arrogant and unhelpful. I'd prefer to fly with Singapore Airline, British Airline or Cathay Airline....

I am guessing english not their first language. A lot of other simply stupid comments as well - a lot of petulant people have spat the dummy it seems...

[Happy Dude]

I have issues with someone rating an airline when they can even get the competitor's names correct:

and then:

I also wonder what benchmarks the subscribers are using - how many other airlines are they comparing against. I wonder if China Air, Air Pakistan, RyanAir, AA were even on the list...

You mean "can't get the competitor's names correct" and "China Airlines, Pakistan International Airlines", don't you?

Anyhoo, I took Shillard up on his offer and viewed the "Gloria Jeans" thread on notgoodenough.org, and I'm struggling to see any reference or relevance to CHOICE or it's readership. There is a click-on link to CHOICE's website but seeing as though they are both consumer advocate outlets, that would appear to be reasonable.

I doubt you'd find a more balanced group of people to survey than CHOICE readership. The whole point of CHOICE is to provide unbiased appraisal of goods and services. It's an independant, not for profit organisation whose readers have nothing whatsoever to gain from positive or negative feedback.

Whether or not they fly as frequently as some of the membership here is a different issue, but you'd expect the respondents to have some basis for comparison. Rather damningly, the SMH blog entries, most likely from a larger population sample than CHOICE readership, appear to support the outcomes of the survey (even if there are a few typos in most of them, right Simongr?).

[simongr]

and then:

You mean "can't get the competitor's names correct" and "China Airlines, Pakistan International Airlines", don't you?


(even if there are a few typos in most of them, right Simongr?).

Busted - badly busted....

I read through about 3 pages of the blog and some of the ranting and grandstanding made me doubt the veracity of the complaints. Things like "I fly 140K miles a year and on one fligth QF staff were obnoxious and I will never fly them again" from someone who claimed to be Platinum - I am guessing a call to the Platinum desk might have helped - and if you were such a frequent flyer why would need to ask what the check in time was - and then not get there on time.

There are a lot of comments like "Qantas is the worse/worst airline" - which is meaningless to be in terms of adding anything to explain what the basis for judgement is.

The problem with surveying the quality of an airline - even for a relatively high volume flyer like me (I dont necessarily class myself as frequent) - is that for a start I only fly a small number of airlines and then I dont fly the same route multiple times on different airlines. Also in Oz people have little choice to base a lot of comparison on.

I am sure that you are correct that they are a reasoned and balanced group - I am just not sure that their opinions, if they are average travellers, will be based on sufficient evidence.

[SeaWolf]

I'd agree that it's probably not representative of general flyers, but neither is this forum. Most of the people here who fly QF are Gold/Platinum and are flying in the pointy end of the aircraft. Most of the passengers on QF are Bronze (if in QFF at all) and are flying cattle class, the experience for these people is very, very different.

I've only flown QF once (PER-MEL), but I was treated rudely by two members of the cabin crew on that flight and it has certainly soured my impression of QF.

[shillard]

Loads of mindless QF-bashing on the website of the Socialist Morning Herald.