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Old 5th February 2007, 08:50 PM
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New security measures for Australia

Hello all,

SQ sent me something about new security measures and JAL mentioned same.... well this is the official info from DOTARS

New Aviation Security Measures for Carry-on Baggage at International Airports

I hope its not a repost and i am 3 months late, if i am believe it or not its news to me until recently.

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From 31 March 2007, the Australian Government will introduce enhanced security measures to limit the amount of liquids, aerosols, and gels that can be taken through the screening point for people who are flying to and from Australia

All containers with drinks, creams, perfumes, sprays, gels, toothpaste and similar substances will have to be carried in a re-sealable transparent plastic bag, no larger than one litre, and be inspected separately at the airport screening point.
Each container should not have a capacity greater than 100 millilitres and all containers should fit comfortably in the re-sealable plastic bag. Exceptions will be made for passengers with medical conditions and quantities of baby food required for the flight. However, these items may be subject to additional security checks. Passengers can still take on board items purchased after the screening point, including duty free.

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Old 5th February 2007, 08:54 PM
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Re: New security measures for Australia

Not new news, but on the other hand not widely published.

Good to see we are improving airline safety by blindly following everyone else.

Just wait till it becomes the norm for domestic flights too. Was delayed due to it being "too hard to implement" but I'm sure they are working on it.

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Old 5th February 2007, 09:01 PM
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Re: New security measures for Australia

As is "Security by obscurity".

I love it when people worry about security in one aspect and forget the really big holes and just they they are secure.

Seems i must not have been paying attention then, oh well now we all know. What a pain this will be but atleast they don't limit other carry on bags, simply that the liquids and pastes must be in the clear bag carried seperatly through screening points.

Be really early the first month of this comming in to effect, i predict chaos

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Old 5th February 2007, 09:09 PM
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Re: New security measures for Australia

Don't forget the ex-Japan changes happening around the same time (1 March).

Very similar.

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New rules on what is permitted in cabin baggage will take effect from 1 March 2007. The regulations will affect customers flying from Japan, and covers all liquids, gels and aerosols. You are advised to pack your cabin baggage accordingly so as to avoid unnecessary inconvenience.

Specific regulations:

* Liquids, gels and aerosols will only be allowed in cabin baggage if they are kept in containers with volumes of not more than 100 ml each.
* These containers must be carried in a clear, re-sealable plastic bag. The total volume of the bag must not exceed 1 litre.
* One person is allowed to carry only one such plastic bag.
* The bag must be removed from cabin baggage and presented to security personnel at the checkpoint for separate x-ray screening.

Medications and special dietary requirements, including baby formula:

* Are permitted in cabin baggage
* May be subject to additional security checks

Duty-free purchases:

* Liquids, gels and aerosols purchased from duty-free shops in Japanese airports are exempt from these regulations.
* They may however, be confiscated when in transit in other states, according to the regulations of these states.
"Security by stupidity" was coined by me when at a rock concert recently. They were not allowing in bottles of drink (eg Soft drinks) unless the cap was not on it. They were not searching for bottle caps. Nor were they even caring what was within the bottle. Just as long as it wasn't capped they were happy.

Clowns. Ooops. Perhaps others can juxtaposition that comment in relation to other things we've been talking about.
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I'm surprised that it's taken America Junior so long to get with the program.

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I feel safer already

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I'm surprised that it's taken America Junior so long to get with the program.

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From when I saw it announced, they seemed to be more referencing the European ban on liquids rather than US. Will they join in with the 1 piece of handbaggage restriction currently in UK and coming soon to Europe

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Not new news, but on the other hand not widely published.

Good to see we are improving airline safety by blindly following everyone else.

Just wait till it becomes the norm for domestic flights too. Was delayed due to it being "too hard to implement" but I'm sure they are working on it.

As my Flyertalk signature states:

Security by stupidity isn't security at all

As I said when this news was first announced last year it shows how much a farce these measures are. Either we have a real security threat and should have implemented immediately, or we don't. Announcing changes to security months ahead of time is an utter nonsense.
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Old 6th February 2007, 09:03 AM
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As I said when this news was first announced last year it shows how much a farce these measures are. Either we have a real security threat and should have implemented immediately, or we don't. Announcing changes to security months ahead of time is an utter nonsense.
No it isn't. It may be that there is an increase in security by doing so, not that it is patently unsafe without doing it. Given the impact of the change, to give advanced warning will hopefully avoid chaos ensuing when it is implemented

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No it isn't. It may be that there is an increase in security by doing so, not that it is patently unsafe without doing it. Given the impact of the change, to give advanced warning will hopefully avoid chaos ensuing when it is implemented

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Bah! Disallowing any baggage and locking pax into their seats will also improve security. Doesn't mean the benefits outweigh the costs or that it is a good idea to do that.

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