[ANstar]

Originally Posted by Flying Fox

I thought that QF could lease some Oasis 744's to assist with the transition of the 743's out of the fleet and also provide coverage whilst the QF 744's get refurbished with Y+ and new interiors.

They already have 2 x domestic 332's coming mid year to replace some 743's and Im sure that with the A380's coming online the other 2 or so 743's can be got rid of with exisitng capcity plans.

As I said earlier, JQ are the one that hurt the most with the delays and the leasing of more 332's proves this.

I would expect it doesnt really hurt QF too much with their 767's as they can just delay retirement, whereas it really was clipping JQ's expansions plans.

That said, we may see more 332 leasing deals if QF have more delays

[oz_mark]

Originally Posted by ANstar

They already have 2 x domestic 332's coming mid year to replace some 743's and Im sure that with the A380's coming online the other 2 or so 743's can be got rid of with exisitng capcity plans.

As I said earlier, JQ are the one that hurt the most with the delays and the leasing of more 332's proves this.

I would expect it doesnt really hurt QF too much with their 767's as they can just delay retirement, whereas it really was clipping JQ's expansions plans.

That said, we may see more 332 leasing deals if QF have more delays

I expect that Qantas may look at other options to retire at least some of its 767's (or give the British Airways ones back!). I would not be at all suprised to see some more airbuses coming the QF way (but availaibility may be an issue)

[simongr]

Originally Posted by Flying Fox

However, I can't wait to see the A380's in full QF colours! I have heard that they intend to have 4 delivered by 12/2008.

MSN014 	A380-841 *5 	F-WWSK 	VH-OQA 	Qantas 	        HX, OF, (PD - Aug 08)
MSN015 	A380-841 *5 	F-WWSL 	VH-OQB 	Qantas 		HX, B, (PD - Oct 08)
MSN022 	A380-841 *5 	F-WWSS 	VH-OQC 	 Qantas 		HX, CV 2007/5, B, (PD - Q2 2009)
MSN026 	A380-841 *6 	F-WWSW 	VH-OQD 	Qantas 		HX, B, (PD - Q2 2009)
MSN027 	A380-841 	F-WWSX 	VH-OQE 	Qantas 		HX, B, (PD Q3 2009)
MSN029 	A380-841 	F-WWSZ 	VH-OQF 	Qantas 		HX, CV 2008/1, B, (PD)

Ok - that is the production schedule for the A380 for QF. The key to the status shown is:

FT Flight Testing, TLS
OF Outfitting, XFW
B Built, not flying yet, TLS
DA Delivered - Active
U Unknown
NTU Not Taken Up
† Scrapped / Written off
RF Refitting, TLS
CV Convoy(Year / Nr)
HX ICAO 24-bit address (no idea what this means)
PD Planned Delivery - Not Known

So we have one aircraft that has flown and is being outfitted, 4 built but not flying and I has got himself a convoy.

Now you know as much as the rest of us

I am considering routing my next trip to teh US via MEL in Sep in case they have one flying MEL-LAX by then...

[maninblack]

Originally Posted by simongr

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So we have one aircraft that has flown and is being outfitted, 4 built but not flying and I has got himself a convoy.

Now you know as much as the rest of us

I am considering routing my next trip to teh US via MEL in Sep in case they have one flying MEL-LAX by then...

What is a convoy Are they getting a Kenworth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtXhHn6Yaqc

Anyway, how many aircraft are required to do the daily MEL-LAX-MEL QF93/94 service?

Here's betting that the inaugural A380 service will end up being SYD-LAX just to stick it to V Australia and because Sydney always gets the goods This is Qantas we are talking about.

[Flying Fox]

Originally Posted by oz_mark

I expect that Qantas may look at other options to retire at least some of its 767's (or give the British Airways ones back!). I would not be at all suprised to see some more airbuses coming the QF way (but availaibility may be an issue)

I thought that QF bought the BA 767's after the initial A380 delay of 2yrs?

As for the first QF A380 service, even though they have always said MEL-LAX, I wouldn't be surprised if there was a special SYD-LAX service so that they can 'break the champagne over her nose'.

I also hope that they do something special like SQ and offer bids online with proceeds to a charity.

[serfty]

Originally Posted by simongr

... HX ICAO 24-bit address (no idea what this mean

Transponder (aviation) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[simongr]

Originally Posted by maninblack

Here's betting that the inaugural A380 service will end up being SYD-LAX just to stick it to V Australia and because Sydney always gets the goods This is Qantas we are talking about.

Given SYD is the QF head office I think it is reasonable to expect that the first flight of the A380 with paying pax will be out of SYD. However the first scheduled service is planned to be MEL-LAX for operational reasons.

Now if QF are monitoring these boards then a lottery of QFFers with numbers of entries based on teh past 12 months SCs would be a great way to give away those seats

[oz_mark]

Originally Posted by Flying Fox

I thought that QF bought the BA 767's after the initial A380 delay of 2yrs?

I thought they extended the lease for a couple of years. Nevertheless, I suspect that QF would want to start retiring them sooner rather than later (straight after they have dealt with the 743's )

[oz_mark]

Jetstar now expects first 787 in November 2009-14/04/2008-Flightglobal.com

Qantas Airways’ low-cost subsidiary Jetstar anticipates it will now receive its first Boeing 787 in November 2009.

The first 787 will come in November 2009 and over a 12-month period the airline will receive a total of 15 of the type, a Jetstar spokesman said on the sidelines of an event in Ho Chi Minh City in Vietnam today.

[....]

The Jetstar spokesman ATI spoke to today says the carrier plans to start by operating the 787 domestically for a couple of months until the operation is bedded down.

[Flying Fox]

In addition to the other quotes -

Boeing facing payouts on delivery delays | The Australian

I was particularly impressed by this paragraph -

The manufacturer, which has orders for almost 900 of the new planes, was this week reluctant to discuss the cost of the delays but compensation to Qantas is expected to be more than the $202 million Airbus paid in fiscal 2006 and 2007 for delays to 12 A380s.

But I supposed it makes sense since Airbus paid $202M on a delay of 12 aircraft and Boeing are delaying on 65 aircraft (although less expensive and some won't be delayed). However, I'm still impressed.