[bigjobs]

Originally Posted by shillard

Sure, but I'm not joking.

i know, that's why you're so funny

[bigjobs]

Originally Posted by oz_mark

I'll try and track it down, but I remember a year or so back there was an FCC survey of (lots of people). Something around the 10% mark supported voice calls, and around 60% supported SMS.

thanks for that info

[bigjobs]

Originally Posted by JohnK

No need for me to provide any evidence.

Just have a sticky beak at every single poll that has been conducted on this subject. You will find the results overwhelming against the use of mobile phones on aircraft.

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[bigjobs]

Originally Posted by JohnK

Simon, I know it may sound like I complain a lot but I am very tolerant. Actually I think I am more tolerant than most people on this forum.

I have seen too many considerate self centred people overuse mobile phones. They actually think they are cool. They actually think they are important. They actually think that other people give a damn about their work/social life.

Somehow I feel that I will not have much to worry about regularly flying economy as the majority of considerate self centred mobile phone users will be sitting up the front of the aircraft.

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[simongr]

Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer

Logic suggests otherwise.

I think John might have meant inconsiderate?

I find it funny that in a country with such high mobile phone penetration that people seem to hate them so much. I just find them a convenient tool - but I like to be able to contact who I want when I want for whatever reason I want - that's why I have bluetooth headset (good for on trains so I dont have to talk too loud and people can hear me), skype, msn, blackberry - its not to be cool its just so that whenever I want to be in contact I can.

There are times when due to multiple timezones of multiple family members and work colleagues on multiple continents and multiple time zones within continents that having a call on a plane or being able to text would just be convenient. I dont understand the pathological loathing for other people's convenience.

It seems its alright to dictate what one person can do byt denying them use of their mobile phone - but can I prod the snorer? spray the farter? slap the misbehaving child? gag the drunk businessman on an op-up? It just seems that because you can impact this annoyance without having to interact with the person you are affecting that its easier to shout that something should not be allowed.

[serfty]

I have a work associate who just can't help yelling into his mobile phone. (When on a call of course ) And, he does not even know he is doing it; gets very surprised (and apologetic) if it's mentioned. We also commute on the same suburban train line and he does this there as well.

Traveling with him can be a real Pain; Late morning yesterday, while taxing after landing in MEL, he proceeded to regale his offsider at the office and anyone within 15' of our activities at SYD from 5:30am that morning and related issues.

He is not a mobile Junkie; does not complain about having to turning his mobile off during a flight, it's just that he is LOUD!.

Oh, well ... since he approves my claims/timesheets/invoices I'll just have to live with it.

[Happy Dude]

Originally Posted by serfty

while taxing after landing in MEL, he proceeded to regale his offsider at the office and anyone within 15' of our activities at SYD from 5:30am that morning and related issues.

He is not a mobile Junkie; does not complain about having to turning his mobile off during a flight, it's just that he is LOUD!.

Taxiing to the terminal or from the airport?

If it's the former, I suggest that he is a mobile junkie and one full of self importance. Surely it could wait a few more minutes till he got into the terminal? This would be a fine example of why voice calls shouldn't be implemented. Imagine hearing all that on a long haul flight. Aircraft are small enough as it is.

[JohnK]

Originally Posted by simongr

I think John might have meant inconsiderate?

No, I meant considerate. Most self centred peole using mobile phones in enclosed environments think they are being considerate when in fact they are annoying the hell out of most people. YMMV!

[oz_mark]

Originally Posted by bigjobs

thanks for that info

Hunted around and can find a couple of references to the survey (although it does seem to have been 2 years ago - oh well, time flies )

Frome here:
newswireless.net .:. PR releases .:. IDC survey finds market for cell phone ...

Only 11% of 50,000 respondents indicated that they are in favour of cell phone use for voice calls on planes, whether in unlimited or designated calling areas. However, 64% of respondents approved of passengers using their mobile phones in-flight for activities other than voice calls.

and from The Register!
Airline passengers love inflight SMS, hate voice calls | The Register

The ban on mobile phones on airplanes may soon be lifted, but most people are opposed to their use in-flight for voice calls.

That's according to a worldwide survey by IDC which indicated that far from supporting a lifting of the ban by the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) in the US, a number of consumer groups claim the use of mobile phones on board airplanes would disturb passengers. Only 11 per cent of the 50,000 respondents would support the use of mobile phones for voice calls while on board an airplane

While the majority of respondents would not approve of passengers making voice calls during flights, some 64 percent of respondents indicated their approval of using mobile phones for data services such as SMS. Of the 11 specified wireless activities, in-flight messaging emerged as the most popular choice among respondents.