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    "Ma'am it's an emergency,"

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    Air Force officer saves airliner with fuel leak.

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    Re: "Ma'am it's an emergency,"

    Ouch. Makes you wonder why the pilot/s didn't notice themselves. Surely instrumentation would indicate a massive drop in fuel levels...

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    Re: "Ma'am it's an emergency,"

    I find it interesting that he had to say it twice and bring proof. Since UA232 pilots (and FA's) are meant to use all resources available to them, inc the pax. So when a pax comes up and says there is a problem pilots and FA's are meant to take it seriously.

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    Re: "Ma'am it's an emergency,"

    Quote Originally Posted by Mal View Post
    Ouch. Makes you wonder why the pilot/s didn't notice themselves. Surely instrumentation would indicate a massive drop in fuel levels...
    It would, but who's to say they wouldn't have been over the ocean when the next instrument check is due to happen, and I don't think the FMC would have brought up any alerts until the fuel remaining went below what is required to reach the planes destination, which thanks to reserves could be quite some time.

    That said, I doubt it would have gotten to the stage where they run out of fuel mid flight. (Then again look at Air Transat flight 236)

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    Re: "Ma'am it's an emergency,"

    Quote Originally Posted by Mal View Post
    Ouch. Makes you wonder why the pilot/s didn't notice themselves. Surely instrumentation would indicate a massive drop in fuel levels...
    I took this to mean they had noticed.

    The aircraft's captain came to inspect the footage, which explained why the plane was losing 2700 kilograms of fuel each hour.
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    Re: "Ma'am it's an emergency,"

    Quote Originally Posted by straitman View Post
    I took this to mean they had noticed.
    Nah, I didn't... It just explains that 2700Kg of fuel was being lost each hour - not that the pilot/s actually noticed that they were losing that much fuel.

    Once again, I hope it's investigated by the NTSB, and the report ensures that any appropriate lessons are learnt.

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    Re: "Ma'am it's an emergency,"

    Maybe this is a good reason why windowless cabins should not be a way of the future?

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    Re: "Ma'am it's an emergency,"

    What I find a little difficult to swallow is that the aircraft was at FL350 when this all occurred - surely if thy were only a few hours out of ORD, a 744 with sufficient fuel to fly to NRT would have been too heavy to be up that high that early in the flight?

    The 747 is a powerful machine, but you can't make a whale defy the laws of physics.

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    Re: "Ma'am it's an emergency,"

    Quote Originally Posted by NYCguy View Post
    What I find a little difficult to swallow is that the aircraft was at FL350 when this all occurred - surely if thy were only a few hours out of ORD, a 744 with sufficient fuel to fly to NRT would have been too heavy to be up that high that early in the flight?

    The 747 is a powerful machine, but you can't make a whale defy the laws of physics.
    ORD-NRT is only 6300 miles or thereabouts. So assuming they were not carrying a belly full of heavy freight, a 744 would not be required to be at or near MTOW and unable to climb directly to FL350.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mannej View Post
    Maybe this is a good reason why windowless cabins should not be a way of the future?
    Could these not be replaced by strategically placed cameras focused on wings engines etc?

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