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Old 27th October 2008, 07:34 PM
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Alcohol Incident

Hi all, not sure what to do about this so dug up this forum to seek the collective wisdom of the masses.

As you would know, as a frequent flyer you do tend to notice when things are a less different then ordinary, as was my experience today.

On a flight back to my hometown one one of our budget carriers I was seated next to a man that I soon noticed all the flight crew knew personally. He whispered (bit too loud since I easily heard) to the flight attendant, "when we are airborne do you think I could order a red wine, is that OK, you wont get me in trouble will you?". To which she replied, "Thats fine, I will get you a wine, it's OK", he says, "I dont want to get in trouble", she says it is OK, will be fine.

Thinking this was a little odd I watched closely, another flight attendant comes past and whispers to him, "I will get your wine upfront soon", he says, "I dont want to get in trouble, are you sure?", she says "its OK, It will be up front, I will let you know".

So, anyway, as the drinks cart goes past, she tells him to go to seat 1C and then brings a bottle of wine up to him. For the flight he was chatting to the flight attendants, obviously familiar with them, drinking his wine and so on. As we file off the plane he is sitting there, the pilot was out talking to him like old mates.

So......... I thought could he be an air marshall? No I dont think so because my understanding is that if we do still have them on our planes they are supposed to be anon to everyone including crew. I can be certain that he would be an employee of the airline, so what role then woud make him known to the whle flight crew and scared witless of getting in trouble for drinking alcohol.

So again......... I can only suspect that he is a pilot (had the pilot haircut) and concerned that he was worried about getting busted with alcohol because he is soon to be flying.

I am not sure of I am jumping to conclusions, just cannot think of too many other options. So, for me the question is this... Is this the type of thing I should really chat about with some authorities, bacause if he is a pilot it is a pulic risk to fly under alcohol influence - no matter how much?

I would appreciate your thoughts.

BTW I do have more information that I have not written as to keep things as anon as possible. One such is the Three Letter Acronym that the flight crew all seemed to refer to him as. If anyone knows of the acronyms used by airlines to refer to people or peoples positions that could help me know for sure the role of the guy in the company then please let me know.

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Old 27th October 2008, 11:52 PM
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Re: Alcohol Incident

Which airline was it and what time of day was the flight? I dare say the passenger in question was just nonrev staff and was asking for a free glass of wine when it wasn't usually offered for free in that class of service.

Without sounding rude, I would say you are jumping to conclusions. 99.99% of pilots follow the 8 hour bottle to throttle rule, and the remaining 00.01% wouldn't be dumb enough to take drinks while on a company flight with many crew to dob them in.

I'd suggest you just treat the incident as it was - nothing of concern.
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Old 28th October 2008, 10:14 AM
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I'd probably think nothing of the situation.

Its probably a 'off duty' staff member flying home or going somewhere, OR a VIP of some sort - well to the crew - anyway.
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Old 28th October 2008, 02:05 PM
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Re: Alcohol Incident

I think that it being a budget carrier the issue was more about how they would cover the cost of the wine in their books. How would they show it has been paid for - but then maybe they can offer wine as a service recovery tactic.
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Old 28th October 2008, 02:34 PM
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Re: Alcohol Incident

Who knows who he was...could be any of the following (list not exhaustive):

* non-rev air crew (inclusing deadheading pilot)
* family of air crew
* company flight engineer
* company executive
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Chalk it down to an experience. IMHO, not worth worrying about...but it is human nature to be inquisitive
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Old 28th October 2008, 05:30 PM
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Re: Alcohol Incident

can also be a friendly custome or immigration officer,
any airport (ground staffs)

those people have plenty "friends" that works as flight crews.
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Old 28th October 2008, 06:34 PM
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I've seen staff 'looked after' by other staff who know them on budget carriers - and no money changing hands.

No idea how they account for the discrepancy, but it's possible.
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Old 29th October 2008, 12:54 AM
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I've seen staff 'looked after' by other staff who know them on budget carriers - and no money changing hands.

No idea how they account for the discrepancy, but it's possible.
You're right Mal. Stock shrinkage (dont you love that term?) happens in every retail environment no matter how good the security and stock control systems. Airline on-board merchandise is no different whether for a "budget" carrier or a "full service" carrier (many of which sell alcohol on domestic legs or at certain times of day).
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Old 29th October 2008, 01:33 PM
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I think the passenger in question was probably Santa Clause. He is worried about drinking the red because he has a wholesome image to protect. He is well known to the crew as they see him flying by the plane around xmas time. Maybe you can ask him on Christmas Eve.
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Old 29th October 2008, 05:06 PM
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Sounds like a politician to me-pays for nothing,no one is to blame,just do it out of sight of the plebs.

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