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Old 20th June 2006, 12:39 PM
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Customs face-cam airport go-ahead

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Customs face-cam airport go-ahead
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June 20, 2006

THE $67 million Customs automated border processing system will begin operating next year with a single SmartGate Series 1 kiosk in each of Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane airports.

The first operational unit will be installed at one of the three airports in February. SmartGate will perform customs and immigration checks using data contained in e-passports.

The system incorporates facial recognition technology, which matches a live image of the traveller against a digitised photo stored on a microchip embedded in the passport.

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Is this change about increasing security or reducing the need for immigration staff?

p.s. I didn't realise this sub-forum existed, but I guess it's the right place for this post!

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Old 20th June 2006, 01:07 PM
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Re: Customs face-cam airport go-ahead

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Is this change about increasing security or reducing the need for immigration staff?

p.s. I didn't realise this sub-forum existed, but I guess it's the right place for this post!
Hopefully its about making the process more efficient. And that often means making it less labour-intensive.
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Old 18th February 2007, 06:08 PM
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Re: Customs face-cam airport go-ahead

It is unfortunate that in any rigorous study of the technology, it simply doesn't work well enough to be of any practical benefit.
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Old 18th February 2007, 07:15 PM
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Re: Customs face-cam airport go-ahead

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Is this change about increasing security or reducing the need for immigration staff?
Not sure what they are they are trying to achieve! There is nothing wrong with having immigration staff, they just need to employ someone that is able to efficiently roster staff for work when they are required the most.

Face recognition technology.... If it is anything like voice recognition technology then it may take a while for some people to clear immigration.
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Old 18th February 2007, 07:27 PM
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Not sure what they are they are trying to achieve! There is nothing wrong with having immigration staff, they just need to employ someone that is able to efficiently roster staff for work when they are required the most.

Face recognition technology.... If it is anything like voice recognition technology then it may take a while for some people to clear immigration.
Immigration staff, who are they? (note that I used to work for Immigration). Do you mean Customs staff?

Face recognition, just go to the USA or Thailand right now and you will have your answer.

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Old 18th February 2007, 08:19 PM
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No need to go to the US or Thailand to understand the answer with regard to this technology. It just doesn't work very well.

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Re: Customs face-cam airport go-ahead

The trial worked pretty well for me. My access will end soon, so it'll be back to the queues unless I get a "digital" passport.

The original trial used around 3 photos of yourself taken at certain angles by a Customs officer.

I'm not sure how it works with the new digital passports. They only have one photo of you in the database. While Self correction and correlation can occur from several photos and attempts at access, the first couple of times could be tricky.

Spose we'll all see how it goes...
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No need to go to the US or Thailand to understand the answer with regard to this technology. It just doesn't work very well.

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In fairness, this article was written three years ago.

Professor Clarke has an interesting view on life. I had him as a lecturer years ago. He was one of the main advocates against the Australia Card in the late 80s.
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I agree with Mal; it has saved me hours. My PP expires in September next year; (I'm really tempted to get myself a chipped one sooner ...)

The article was written way back in 2004; this was before the trial was (successfully) extended to Qantas's more frequent fliers in early 2005.
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Re: Customs face-cam airport go-ahead

Mine also expires next year, how do we get a chipped one ?
I would like to give it a go and besides you can still use the normal lines as well i would presume.

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