Change to JAL Business Product SYD-TYO

[Travel Guru]

From Travel Today:

Japan Airlines plans to increasingly target high end travellers after last night
launching its new shell flat seat for the Sydney-Tokyo route.
Available from October 28, the shell flat configuration will see capacity in executive class boosted from 74 to 89 seats in the Boeing 747-400. The seat reclines to 170 degrees and is 190cm long, and also includes an in-built
massage function and power outlet for laptops.

TG

[Evan]

Good news
That is without actually trying the new J seats (only ever the older ones) so i assume they are good.

E

[Travel Guru]

I think it's great news, it was the only negative pt flying JAL J was their old seat, will be nice to get through to London or NY with the new seats all the way.

TG

[simongr]

This IS good news. I have been keen to fly JL to NRT as part of a DONE4 but am put off by the awful seating on JL.

[moa999]

Nothing on the JAL website.

Are they referrent to the JAL Shell Flat
or the
JAL Shell Flat Neo which is scheduled to go to JFK and SFO in Aug/ Sep 2008.
I suspect it may mean that the Shell Flat planes are getting rerouted to Sydney while US gets the really new planes

[Travel Guru]

I suspect you may be right, no mention of the Shell Neo product, I would think they're just rerouting planes.

That was only announced last night, and it was all they published so will wait and see what else comes out

TG

[adrian]

Have flown them a couple of times between BKK & NRT , and they are nice. Not that much different from Qantas seat, if memory serves correct. I certainly wouldn't avoid JL from SYD-NRT like I used to, because of the seat (although I will still try to avoid them as AA doesn't give the 100% bonus on JL, like it does on QF)

[maninblack]

Have flown them a couple of times between BKK & NRT , and they are nice. Not that much different from Qantas seat, if memory serves correct. I certainly wouldn't avoid JL from SYD-NRT like I used to, because of the seat (although I will still try to avoid them as AA doesn't give the 100% bonus on JL, like it does on QF)

Yeah, but it's all about the seat. Any other perks are of secondary importance.

[NM]

This IS good news. I have been keen to fly JL to NRT as part of a DONE4 but am put off by the awful seating on JL.

Remember there is no status bonus for AAdvantage earning for JL flights.

[adrian]

Yeah, but it's all about the seat. Any other perks are of secondary importance.

Sure, so if the seats are very similar, I'll go for QF as I get the bonus points.

In reality though, it usually comes down to availability, and JL usually has more D availability that QF.